Shaun Keavenys Not So Simple

In our first ever episode, Shaun Keaveny talks to Steven Johnson, one of the world's foremost technology writers, about his new book Wonderland: How Play Made The Modern World. After an exclusive extract from the book, the pair have a wide-ranging conversation that takes in bone flutes, Pythagoras, lazy computers, and Doritos.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.