Geekcross

Jeremy sits down with Zeph McLearan, producer of GeekCross and other fine podcasts, to discuss the 1986 animated "The Transformers: The Movie." Topics include: the appeal of "Transfromers"; why the animated movie does not feel like a cynical attempt to sell toys; Zeph's thoughts on Pope Francis; online harassment; the joy of small cons; and advice on how to enjoy the Michael Bay movies by abandoning any hope for story and characters. @zmclearan @geekcrossshow @kylewiegand1