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The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, BIG Wos, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Sarah the Pharmacist, Victoria Jacobi, Anthony Mayes, James MacSorley, Dave DuFour and Jerome Cheng.  Produced by: Jade Hoye   Part II of the Mailbag is available on Patreon   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerder She Wrote: Dave DuFour and David Thorpe   Rundown:  Lonzo Ball free throws Lakers without LeBron James Harden & The Rockets Wizards trade options  3 Best players Under 26 Luka Doncic The Hipster Baby Jesus Zion in ATL  Draft Reform / Rookie Free Agency Plan Wolves Regression  Andrew Wiggins  Grizzlies  Celtics  Marcus Morris All Star? Final Thoughts End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, BIG Wos, Ethan Strauss, Anthony Mayes and Dave DuFour Produced by: Jade Hoye   Rundown:  Bird Box Good or Nah? Russ Westbrook Debate Is he as good as he thinks he is?  Defense Tanking and Zion LeBron Underrated and Under Appreciated  Dwane Casey upset  WW2 Digression Warriors Aggregation Segment The Draymond Green Problem Someone has to go!  Klay too? Boogie Cousins fix this? End     Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, BLK Tray, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Jerome Cheng, Sarah the Pharmacist, Anthony Mayes and special Fan Duel winner guest, Jonathan Zoob. Produced by: Jade Hoye   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, BIG Wos, Mariano Bivins, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Anthony Mayes, Sarah the Pharmacist, Jerome Cheng, Kariemah Shah, Angela Gaile and a special appearance from  Greyson and Sadie Hoye.  Produced by: Jade Hoye Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerder She Wrote: Dave DuFour, David Thorpe and special guest Hall of Fame reporter, David Aldridge from the Athletic DC https://theathletic.com/dc/ Sponsored by: The Athletic get 40% Off https://theathletic.com/back2back   Rundown:  Favorite Holiday drinks Wizards / Wall  Dwight Howard Wall's effort / inconsistency  LeBron and Anthony Davis Celtics have better assets with Kyrie caveat Stars playing with LeBron  Chris Bosh as an example Too many stars in Boston Rockets / James Harden / West What are you watching Coach? Too many 3s a problem? Final thoughts Appreciate The Game LeBron's message to his son End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, Tom Haberstroh, Ethan Strauss, Dave DuFour, Anthony Mayes and Jovan Buha.  Produced by: Jade Hoye   Rundown:  James Harden What's the problem? Refs this year Clippers regressing to the mean Rockets good now? Chris Paul washed Still injured? Getting old? Behind the Rockets 4 game win streak Thunder are the #2 team in the West Lakers have LeBron tho Kemba regression Welcome Ethan Grizz or Clipps, who's more legit?  Trail Blazers  What is cute ugly? French Bull Dogs can't have sex Fan Duel x NBA LeBron broken hand in last year's Finals Lines The carry is worse then the travel End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, BIG Wos, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Anthony Mayes, Mama Hoye, Matt Ruffin, Dave DuFour and Sarah. With: Jerome Cheng, Rich Gunz and Ricky Logan. Produced by: Jade Hoye Sponsored by: Mint Mobile mintmobile.com/btb   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerder She Wrote with Dave DuFour, David Thorpe and Ethan Strauss.  Sponsored by: The Athletic https://theathletic.com/back2back for 40% off.  Rundown:  Sleep Monitors Drinking and sleep What's going on with the Bulls? Grace and maturity vs Machismo Michael Jordan vs Malik Monk Zion Williamson's Potential  Welcome Ethan Strauss The Life of an NBA Spy (Advanced Scouting) Why choose this life? Warriors' mid range shooting  Klay Thompson Bored Warriors MVPs End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dave DuFour is joined by Blk Tray and special guest Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo! Sports. The trio talks about a three-game Tuesday night in the NBA, the latest in the Bulls dysfunction, a bounce-back game from Kyle Lowry, the Rockets show signs of life and the guys make their early season picks for the Defensive Player of the Year and Coach of the Year.   Produced by: Rob Lopez   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook.com/countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, Big Wos, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Sarah, Anthony Mayes, Dave DuFour, Mama Hoye and Maskims.  Special guest: Andre Trottie Produced by: Jade Hoye Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerder She Wrote with Dave DuFour and Coach David Thorpe Appreciating Defense Sponsored by: The Athletic  theathletic.com/back2back. for 40% off Rundown:  Allen Iverson story time with Coach Let's talk about defense  Thunder without Roberson are good Westbrook has been great Memphis too Men in the middle Marc Gasol Elasticity Jaren Jackson is going to be a Hall of Famer Like a running back The "Economy of Movement" Faking effort  Joakim Noah back If he's healthy...watch out.  Motor and energy are off the charts Timberwolves  Karl Towns fools gold?  Andrew Wiggins  Derrick Rose unreal Dario Saric Who would have thought? Lakers  Lonzo's defense Kuzma Anthony Davis future Final thoughts End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Facebook: www.facebook.com/countthedings         Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, Tom Habersteroh, BIG Wos and Dave DuFour Produced by: Jade Hoye   Rundown: Nerder She Wrote Jade's Esophagus Injury Flavored Beer Mexican Beer is German? Basic Brad Live Show in Boston Fred Hoiberg Fired The timing! Jabari Parker / Lauri Markannan  Who are they building around? Spurs digression Where do the Bulls go from here? Didn't deserve to get fired didn't deserve to keep his job Fred Hoiberg to Minnesota? Coach whiplash Karl-Anthony Towns Timberwolves since Butler trade Daryl "D-Mo" Morey lied to Tom Haberstroh The Rockets still suck Giannis punching people in the dick Kobe comments decoded Anthony Davis  Dell Demps vs Alvin Gentry No one has ever turned down the Super Max End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Friday Mailbag: Zach Harper, BIG Wos, Eden Liu, Nitzan Bluvstein, Sarah the Pharmacist, Anthony Mayes, Dave DuFour and Mama Hoye. Special guests: Andre Trotte and Andre Barrera Produced by: Jade Hoye Sponsored by: Fan Duel and Mind Mobile  www.fanduel.com/b2b https://www.mintmobile.com/btb   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nerder She Wrote: Dave DuFour, David Thorpe and Adam Mares from SB Nations Denver Stiffs.  https://www.denverstiffs.com/ Sponsored by: Fan Duel www.fanduel.com/b2b Rundown:  We're doing video? Nuggets are good! Paul Millsap's effect Mike Malone coaching well and talking shit  Has done well with missing pieces  Nikola Jokic  Being "one pass away" Offensive rebounding strategies Ethan Strauss' "Next Trillion Dollar Innovation" Passing off the backboard  Thorpe, Pete D'Alessandro and Jason Williams story time Learning the game through tradition and innovation  Ban The Charge!  Wisconsin player taking 5 charges  Innovations / Improvements Developmental innovations Ignorance in youth basketball  Rim height Teaching yourself, experience vs instructional learning   "Players have to play" Scrimmaging in practice  A.I. and pattern recognition in basketball On the fly learning  Speed and mental quickness  Lonzo Ball is smart Clone Wars: Team LeBron vs Team Giannis  Gregg Popovich is bored

Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, Tom Haberstroh, Anthony Mayes, Dave DuFour and Jared Dubin Sponsored by: Fan Duel www.fanduel.com/b2b  Rundown:  Mock Drafts in November T Shirt Gatling Guns How good is Nikola Vucevic? Greg Monroe vibes Nobody respects Kevin Durant  KD's defense lacking Pacing himself  Celtic and Basic Brad Need an offensive coordinator  No good shooters? Too many long 2's  The West is a mess Jazz and Rockets Thunder  Mitchell doing too little or too much? Not enough small ball lineups  What's wrong with Houston? Harden's big night's not so impressive Need to push the pace The Warriors have no competition End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Back to Back thanks you for all the support. Happy Thanksgiving!   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dave DuFour, Blk Tray and Justin Rowan talk about a four-game Tuesday night in the NBA. The guys chat about the Wizards comeback win over the Clippers, Toronto needing a clutch shot to beat the Magic, the mounting struggles for the Heat and more.   Jared Weiss of The Athletic joins to talk about the Celtics recent struggles.   Produced by: Rob Lopez   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, Tom Haberstroh, BIG Wos, David Thorpe and Dave DuFour.  Sponsored by: Simple Contacts https://www.simplecontacts.com/btb Fan Duel: www.fanduel.com/b2b Produced by: Jade Hoye   Rundown:  What's going on in Sac Town? Dave Joerger issues really? Refusing to tank Bagley not playing enough? Vivek or Vlade Brandon Williams vs Dave Joerger No incentive to tank Kemba Walker Keeper Better than Kyrie? Nah.  Gordon Hayward benched Kemba like Curry Hornets are not so good John Wall trade possible? Wizards' Flea Market Otto Porter moveable  Celtics Jaylen Brown Jayson Tatum Players need more oxygen Not getting to the basket enough Hayward not the same player Markelle Fultz issues Jump shot free throws Free throw science  Coach's Shaq story  Wall vs Scott Brooks This was Washington's year! JR Smith / Cavs split Possible landing spots Steven Adams is a beast Hypothetical: Adams vs Pekovic steel cage match Grizzlies back! Marc Gasol  Jaren Jackson   Radio Z

Nerder She Wrote: Dave DuFour and Coach David Thorpe answer listener questions.  Topics:  Family Matters What's the best Turkey substitute? Go to Holiday cocktail? The challenge of coaching Lebron. Ty Lue.  Ben Simmons at his peak? Markelle Fultz X-Files territory Time to worry about the Jazz? Fixing the Wiz KD vs Dray + risking it all Spurs adjusted outlook Least favorite stat Thanksgiving wishes End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings       Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices