Philosophers In Space

Hi all! Welcome to the 12th iteration of our Listener Thank You Q and As. Thank you all for supporting the show and if you like what you're hearing and have questions you want answered, you know what to do for next time. Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://openargs.com/  Embrace the Void: https://voidpod.com/ Editing by Brian Ziegenhagen, check out his pod: http://youarehere.libsyn.com/s02e02-rex-manning-day?fbclid=IwAR2L2_YIJvQpcw0nx6nTSfz0GmyJ1DtWsF--vvdI9W1ug3XW7IAtU6dQ36s Recent appearances: Nothing recent. Just floating out here in space ready and willing to throw off some mind s

Hi all! Welcome to the 11th iteration of our Listener Thank You Q and As. Thank you all for supporting the show and if you like what you're hearing and have questions you want answered, you know what to do for next time. Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://openargs.com/  Embrace the Void: https://voidpod.com/ Editing by Brian Ziegenhagen, check out his pod: http://youarehere.libsyn.com/s02e02-rex-manning-day?fbclid=IwAR2L2_YIJvQpcw0nx6nTSfz0GmyJ1DtWsF--vvdI9W1ug3XW7IAtU6dQ36s Recent appearances: Nothing recent. Just floating out here in space ready and willing to throw off some mind s

Another journey of epic proportions bringing us to a topic of epic proportions. Lurking in the back of Blindsight's narrative like a zombie space vampire robot are fundamental questions about who counts for moral consideration and whether morality even matters when dealing with beings like Rorschach. I feel like we're really getting to the heart of how screwed we are trying to answer these questions. Moral Realism primer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_realism The moral significance of non-persons: https://www.jstor.org/stable/30301713?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ O

Well, we're really in the philosophical soup of it now. Out here at the edge of the universe, doing B&Es on a Chinese Room filled with scramblers, not knowing if our sentience is the only thing worth saving our a sad joke that should be shuffled offstage in the gentlest way possible. Or maybe it already has been and we're too zombie to even notice. We're into the middle section of Blindsight, which does not get enough credit as a master work of science fiction philosophy in my opinion. We've moved from discussion of the possibility of philosophical zombies to discussion of the value of sentience/phenomenal experience. We wrestle with the limitations of several accounts of the value of consciousness. This sets us up for discussing the connections between sentience and moral realism in part 3, assuming our sentience lasts that long. The Function of Consciousness: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness/#FunQueWhyDoeConExi Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: htt

Okay, well, lets see if I can convey some information to you through this absurd thing we call sentience, using this even more absurd thing called language. I'll never know if any of this is getting through, or even if there is a through to get to. If you're a zombie (and there's no reason to assume you're not) this should still work out just as well as if you're conscious. So you'll respond with happiness to hear we're covering Peter Watt's Blindsight, a treasure trove of topics in the world of philosophy of mind. Seriously, this may be the single best sci-fi on the topic of phenomenal consciousness. We start off with a discussion of philosophical zombie, of which you may or may not be one. WARNING: AFTER DARK CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR THE END OF THE BOOK AT THE VERY END OF THE SEGMENT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED Philosophical Zombies: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/ Metzinger's phenomenal self model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_model Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on T

Well, the level of meta connections involved in these show notes has gotten so interconnected it has formed a singularity of infinite metaness. If you're reading this you're sadly trapped in the meta and will not be able to escape until things get a bit more straightforward around here. We read A Subway named Mobius and Jeremiah Traeger joined us to discuss emergent properties and how absurd they are as a term of art. Emergent Properties: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/properties-emergent/ Jerb's Youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmE8jnO-2WwKYjSpRXEu2Hw/featured?view_as=subscriber&fbclid=IwAR0wFydQ9_V_XpsKwDI5qx9-UtEZiek0vQrKlt5zBEVO6QVrhcZeyARcqW4 Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really re

::blows the conch shell of fan service:: In the spirt of social cohesion, we provide you with a triple dose of fan service. We present The Society, a much requested A- tweets in a bottle series, and we explain how it perfectly encapsulates the war of bro against bro that would arise in the absence of the social contract. To sweeten the deal, we even throw in some prisoners dilemmas and stag hunts to help understand why the state of nature is just the worst. Game Theory: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/game-theory/   Hobbesian Trap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobbesian_trap Hobbes and Game Theory: https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/S0953820809990069 Hobbes and Game Theory Revisted: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.2041-6962.2011.00071.x Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/group

My usual urge to be snarky here is tempered by concern that we're already about to get teabagged into some hot water for our treatment of the good Dr. Who. Please forgive us our Yankness, and maybe consider a more moderate position for your media output, somewhere between 6 episodes a show and 6,000. Feels like there's room for some middle ground there. Oh right, enough meta banter, we watched Dr. Who season 2 episode 4 of the rebooted version, so the one with David Tennant. We discuss how the story is a classic case of misaligned AI and recommend several ways to better tune your AI so they don't cronenberg your ship. Enjoy! McCarthy Making Robots Conscious of their Mental States: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/56fd/32741b91482798c35c3344f9fceba7a846f0.pdf  Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: phil

An excerpt from Rorschach's rebooted journal: Viewers are afraid of HBO, for it has seen their true faces. The shows are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and boobies and when the drains finally scab over, all the bingers will drown. The accumulated filth of high budget, high concept sex and murder will foam up about their waists, and all the millennials and the boomers who's log ins they use will look up and shout "can't you make less compelling content", and HBO will look down and whisper "no." We're doing the first episode of Watchmen (with some minor references to the second episode)! The HBO version for the main show, and the movie version for NASA this month, so definitely get on that if you want to here Thomas complain about three hours of Zach Snyder. For the main show we'll be discussing the arguments for and against reparations. The case for reparations: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/ The case against reparations: https://www.na

Here's what's going to happen, I'm going to do a matrix like voiceover and you're going to listen, and when that's over, you're going to have even less of a clue what's going on. It all started with a box... We're doing primer! Y'all asked, and we finally looped enough times to find the timeline where we deliver! You get to hear Thomas explain the 60% of the plot he was able to follow and then we haggle a bunch over the nature of time travel as per usual before settling in to argue if it's wrong to do what they do in the movie, whatever that is. The Ethics of Time Travel: https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/news/news-stories/2017/may/time-travel.html Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and than

Now imagine an even greater and glorious afrofuturist podcast, where everyone gets equitable access to boxes. What price would you be willing to pay for that podcast?! Could you truly enjoy such a podcast knowing that those who challenge the podcast are summarily executed? What if we call their objections a disease that must be cut out at the root? Better or worse? This week we're doing the N.K. Jemisin's The Ones Who Stay and Fight, and we cover the paradox of tolerance and try to interpret what the story is saying about this very relevant issue. The Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance  Tweets with Jemisin: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy/status/1184975338784382978 Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write u

Imagine a great and glorious golden podcast, filled with as many or as few boxes as your heart could desire. What price would you be willing to pay for that podcast? I don't mean on patreon, I'm talking cost in human suffering. Could you truly enjoy such a podcast knowing that it relied on the constant pain of one poor co-host at the hands of the other cohost? Would you continue to partake of the pernicious podcast, or would you be one of the ones who unsubscribes away? This week we're doing the much requested classic The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas by Ursula K. Le Guin and we're covering the various options in the field of distributive justice. Spread the love around! TOWWAFO: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Ones-Who-Walk-Away-from-Omelas-Guin/e57397df8d6841d62d5771eae936d60028fffd4e  Distributive Justice: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justice-distributive/ Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion

Hey friends, show notes guy here. This one's a feels show so I'm gonna play it straight. Aron Eisenberg, the actor who played Nog on DS9, passed away recently. He was a beloved member of the Star Trek community and we wanted to do a tribute episode to pay our respects. So, we brought on the perfect person to guide us through, Callie Wright. Besides being an amazing podcaster, Callie is very active in the Star Trek community and brings with her a wealth of Star Trek background stories. We cover the first episode where Nog really gets to shine, season 3 episode 14, Heart of Stone. Given his love for duty, it felt right to use this story to introduce the Deontological theory of ethics, something we'll of course develop in further episodes. We hope you pour yourself a tall glass of root bear and enjoy a bit of Nog glory. Also, Callie mentions a charity at the end of the episode, which has since stopped accepting donations. I didn't want you to think we'd just left it out. Here's the link if you're interested: htt

And lo, Philip K Dick descended from the mountaintop, perspiring heavily, to convey to the world that there were super hot wicked smart mutant Ubermensches coming for their wimmins, and only by acting like total nazis can humans avoid being holocausted by the mutant nazis Ubermensches. If you're not impressed by a half hour podcast that makes the previous sentence comprehensible, I got nothing. Big thanks to our guests on the show, Bryan and Katie of the killer podcast This Film is Lit. Patrons can look forward to hearing their analysis of the Nick Cage "adaptation" Next on NASA. It's up there with Wicker Man. AFTER DARK CONTENT WARNING: The M word (moist) comes up quite a bit. The Golden Man: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Golden_Man Ubermensch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch This Film is Lit Podcast: https://thisfilmislit.podiant.co Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to ans

REEEEEEPPPPPOOOOO MEEEENNNNN!!! Sorry, still got those killer tunes stuck in my head from our NASA9 coverage of Repo! The Genetic Opera. Highly recommend for the original improvised music by Thomas. For this week we have the non-musical version, Repo Men starring Jude Law and Forest Whittaker. It's a much more banal kind of bad, but it's a great basis for discussing the ethics of buying and selling organs. Ethical Organ Markets: https://jme.bmj.com/content/29/3/137 Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://openargs.com/  Embrace the Void: https://voidpod.com/ Recent appearances: Here's the

Those who can't accept the state of reality are doomed to dissatisfaction. Those who can accept the state of reality are doomed to things being as they are. We're reading N.K. Jemisin's short story Cloud Dragon Skies, which I highly recommend you read carefully before the episode and then reread after the episode because we have a very interesting difference of experiences on how we read it that we discuss on the show, and we want to hear your experiences! We also discuss the ethics of geoengineering, in particular some less often cited non-consequentialist arguments. This episode and other stuff we've been doing has me really thinking about how it's even possible to find a balance between acceptance and progress. Ethics of Geoengineering: http://www.homepages.ed.ac.uk/shs/Climatechange/Geo-politics/Preston%20ethics.pdf   Cloud Dragon Skies: http://strangehorizons.com/fiction/cloud-dragon-skies/ Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our

We live in a train. A train called society. The train is the leviathan, the great beast that keeps us alive by keeping us in chains. Within the train there are many narratives. They may all be lies. The question is, do we keep the train as is, do we try to change it, or do we blow it to bits? This is the history of Western Social Contract Theory, on a train.  Social Contract Theory: https://www.iep.utm.edu/soc-cont/ WonkaPiercer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEX52h1TvuA Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://openargs.com/  Embrace the Void: https://voidpod.com/ Recent appearances: Her

All aboard the endless train of symbolism. We'll be passing through, but not making stops in: locomotive dad jokes, environmental injustice, Plato's Republic, Social Contact Theory, revolutionary change, and various flavors or dooooom! If you can't follow the train of thought, it's cause the podcast is a closed system and we can only be as coherent as the sci-fi vehicle that we're currently hurtling along in. This one goes all over the map and the endings a bit abrupt, because just doing meta-meta-analysis isn't good enough, you've gotta meta-match on pacing too. Really though, we've got a lot of train cars worth of wtf left to go, so grab some kronole and get huffing. Environmental Injustice: http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar_url?url=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Henry_Shue/publication/246327954_Global_Environment_and_International_Inequality/links/5bf58e024585150b2bc8bcbb/Global-Environment-and-International-Inequality.pdf&hl=en&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm0GVi6YmGJ1WF5eWY2gAuXD8G8bVQ&nossl

Oopma loompa do-ba-dee-do We’ve got another topic for you. Oompa loompa do-ba-dee-de If you’ve got merit you’ll listen to me. What you get when you reward the best? Virtue for some and vice for the rest. Aiming for merit with your social policy Careful you don’t land on an oligarchy. Oompa loompa do-ba-dee-da Abandon meritocracy and you will go far. You will live like egalitarian too, Like the oompa loompa do-ba-dee-do The Myth of Meritocracy: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/oct/19/the-myth-of-meritocracy-who-really-gets-what-they-deserve Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://open

It's the 10th iteration of our Listener Thank You Q and As. Thank you all for supporting the show and if you like what you're hearing and have questions you want answered, you know what to do for next time. Support us at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/0G  Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0gPhilosophy Join our Facebook discussion group (make sure to answer the questions to join): https://www.facebook.com/groups/985828008244018/  Email us at: philosophersinspace@gmail.com If you have time, please write us a review on iTunes. It really really helps. Please and thank you! Sibling shows: Serious Inquiries Only: https://seriouspod.com/ Opening Arguments: https://openargs.com/  Embrace the Void: https://voidpod.com/ Recent appearances: Aaron spoke in Sydney which you would have known if you were a patron. The fact that you didn't see him is your fault. https://www.meetup.com/AustSkeptics/events/262864465/ CONTENT PREVIEW: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Meritocracy! Join us on patreon so you can as