Application Security Weekly (audio)

A lot of AI security has nothing to do with AI -- things like data privacy, access controls, and identity are concerns for any new software and in many cases AI concerns look more like old-school API concerns. But...there are still important aspects to AI safety and security, from prompt injection to jailbreaking to authenticity. Caleb Sima explains why it's important to understand the different types of AI and the practical tasks necessary to secure how it's used. Segment resources: https://calebsima.com/2023/08/16/demystifing-llms-and-threats/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgDtOu17E&t=1s We already have bug bounties for web apps so it was only a matter of time before we would have bounties for AI-related bugs. Keith Hoodlet shares his experience winning first place in the DOD's inaugural AI bias bounty program. He explains how his education in psychology helped fill in the lack of resources in testing an AI's bias. Then we discuss how organizations should approach the very different concepts of AI s

Companies deploy tools (usually lots of tools) to address different threats to supply chain security. Melinda Marks shares some of the chaos those companies still face when trying to prioritize investments, measure risk, and scale their solutions to keep pace with their development. Not only are companies still figuring out supply chain, but now they're bracing for the coming of genAI and how that will just further highlight the current struggles they're having with data security and data privacy. Segment Resources: Complete Survey Results: The Growing Complexity of Securing the Software Supply Chain https://research.esg-global.com/reportaction/515201781/Toc   Misusing random numbers, protecting platforms for code repos and package repos, vulns that teach us about designs and defaults, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-283

How can open source projects find a funding model that works for them? What are the implications with different sources of funding? Simon Bennetts talks about his stewardship of Zed Attack Proxy and its journey from OWASP to OpenSSF to an Open Source Fellowship with Crash Override. Mark Curphy adds how his experience with OWASP and the appsec community motivated him to create Crash Override and help projects like ZAP gain the support they deserve. Segment resources: https://crashoverride.com/blog/welcome-zap-to-the-open-source-fellowship https://www.zaproxy.org https://crashoverride.com/blog/are-there-too-many-bubbles-of-similar-security-efforts CISA chimes in on the XZ Utils backdoor, PuTTY's private keys and maintaining a secure design, LeakyCLI and maintaining secure secrets in CSPs, LLMs and exploit generation, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-282

There are as many paths into infosec as there are disciplines within infosec to specialize in. Karan Dwivedi talks about the recent book he and co-author Raaghav Srinivasan wrote about security engineering. There's an appealing future to security taking on engineering roles and creating solutions to problems that orgs face. We talk about the breadth and depth of security engineering and ways to build the skills that will help you in your appsec career. Segment resources: https://kickstartseceng.com A Rust advisory highlights the perils of parsing and problems of inconsistent approaches, D-Link (sort of) deals with end of life hardware, CSRB recommends practices and processes for Microsoft, Chrome’s V8 Sandbox increases defense, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-281

We look into the supply chain saga of the XZ Utils backdoor. It's a wild story of a carefully planned long con to add malicious code to a commonly used package that many SSH connections rely on. It hits themes from social engineering and abuse of trust to obscuring the changes and suppressing warnings. It also has a few lessons about software development, the social and economic dynamics of open source, and strategies for patching software. It's an exciting topic partially because so much other appsec is boring. And that boring stuff is important to get right first. We also talk about what parts of this that orgs should be worried about and what types of threats they should be prioritizing instead. Segment Resources: https://tukaani.org/xz-backdoor/ https://news.risky.biz/risky-biz-news-supply-chain-attack-in-linuxland/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-backdoor-almost-infected-linux-everywhere-the-xz-utils-close-call/#ftag=RSSbaffb68 https://therecord.media/malicious-backdoor-code-linux-red-hat-cisa ht

Sometimes infosec problems can be summarized succinctly, like "patching is hard". Sometimes a succinct summary sounds convincing, but is based on old data, irrelevant data, or made up data. Adrian Sanabria walks through some of the archeological work he's done to dig up the source of some myths. We talk about some of our favorite (as in most disliked) myths to point out how oversimplified slogans and oversimplified threat models lead to bad advice -- and why bad advice can make users less secure. Segment resources: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/cybersecurity-myths-and/9780137929214/ The OWASP Top 10 gets its first update after a year, Metasploit gets its first rewrite (but it's still in Perl), PHP adds support for prepared statements, RSA Conference puts passwords on notice while patching remains hard, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-279

One of the biggest failures in appsec is an attitude that blames users for security problems. A lot of processes and workflows break down because of an insecure design or insecure defaults. Benedek Gagyi chats with us about the impact of the user experience (UX) on security and why it's not only important to understand how to make a user's life easier, but in defining who that user is in the first place. Segment resources: https://www.usenix.org/conference/8th-usenix-security-symposium/why-johnny-cant-encrypt-usability-evaluation-pgp-50 The GoFetch side channel in Apple CPUs, OpenSSF's plan for secure software developer education, fuzzing vs. formal verification as a security strategy, hard problems in InfoSec (and AppSec), and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-278

Lots of companies need cybersecurity programs, as do non-profits. Tyler Von Moll talks about how to get small organizations started on security and how to prioritize initial investments. While an appsec program likely isn't going to be one of the first steps, it's going to be an early one. What decisions can you make at the start that will benefit the program in the years that follow? What does an appsec program look like at a small scale? Segment Resources: "Cybersecurity for Nonprofits", https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18HuKtwgwGMtEJ87CgkMqHp1JDVRUXPP--zptjMpF0/edit?usp=sharing https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/2023/master-guide/ Insecure defaults and insecure design in smart locks, FCC adopts Cyber Trust Mark labels for IoT devices, the ZAP project gets a new home, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-277

A majority of internet traffic now originates from APIs, and cybercriminals are taking advantage. Increasingly, APIs are used as a common attack vector because they’re a direct pathway to access sensitive data. In this discussion, Lebin Cheng shares what API attack trends Imperva, a Thales Company has observed over the past year, and what steps organizations can take to protect their APIs. This segment is sponsored by Imperva. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/imperva to learn more about them! The trivial tweaks to bypass authentication in TeamCity, ArtPrompt attacks use ASCII art against LLMs, annoying developers with low quality vuln reports, removing dependencies as part of secure by design, removing overhead with secure by design, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-276

The need for vuln management programs has been around since the first bugs -- but lots of programs remain stuck in the past. We talk about the traps to avoid in VM programs, the easy-to-say yet hard-to-do foundations that VM programs need, and smarter ways to approach vulns based in modern app development. We also explore the ecosystem of acronyms around vulns and figure out what's useful (if anything) in CVSS, SSVC, EPSS, and more. Segment resources: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/patch-management-needs-a-revolution-part-1 https://next.redhat.com/blog/ https://www.first.org/cvss/v4-0/ https://www.first.org/epss/ https://deadliestwebattacks.com/appsec/2010/02/19/primordial-cross-site-scripting-xss-exploits -- For a bit of history, one of the earliest "bugs bounty" from 1995. A SilverSAML example similar to the GoldenSAML attack technique, more about serializing AI models for Hugging Face, OWASP releases 1.0 of the IoT Security Testing Guide, the White House releases more encouragement to move to memory-sa

Farshad Abasi joins us again to talk about creating a new OWASP project, the Secure Pipeline Verification Standard. (Bonus points for not being a top ten list!) We talk about what it takes to pitch a new project and the problems that this new project is trying to solve. For this kind of project to be successful -- as in making a positive impact to how software is built -- it's important to not only identify the right audience, but craft guidance in a way that's understandable and achievable for that audience. This is also a chance to learn more about a project in its early days and the opportunities for participating in its development! Segment resources https://github.com/OWASP/www-project-secure-pipeline-verification-standard--spvs- (coming soon!) PrintListener recreates fingerprints, iMessage updates key handling for a PQ3 rating, Silent Sabotage shows supply chain subterfuge against AI models, 2023 Rust survey results, the ways genAI might help developers, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com

Check out this interview from the ASW Vault, hand picked by main host Mike Shema! This segment was originally published on Dec 13, 2022. Threat modeling is an important part of a security program, but as companies grow you will choose which features you want to threat model or become a bottleneck. What if I told you, you can have your cake and eat it too. It is possible to scale your program and deliver higher quality threat models. Segment Resources: - Original blog: https://segment.com/blog/redefining-threat-modeling/ - Open Sourced slides: https://github.com/segmentio/threat-modeling-training Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-asw-8

We've been scanning code for decades. Sometimes scanning works well -- it finds meaningful flaws to fix. Sometimes it distracts us with false positives. Sometimes it burdens us with too many issues. We talk about finding a scanning strategy that works well and what the definition of "works well" should even be. Segment Resources: https://www.lacework.com/blog/introducing-a-new-approach-to-code-security/ LLMs improve fuzzing coverage, the Shim vuln threatens Linux secure boot, considering AI application threat models, a new language for a configuration file format, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-273

We can't talk about OWASP without talking about lists, but we go beyond the lists to talk about a product security framework. Grant shares his insights on what makes lists work (and not work). More importantly, he shares the work he's doing to spearhead a new OWASP project to help scale the creation of appsec programs, whether you're on your own or part of a global org. Segment Resources: https://owasp.org/www-project-product-security-capabilities-framework/ https://github.com/OWASP/pscf https://prods.ec/ https://owaspsamm.org https://iso25000.com/index.php/en/iso-25000-standards/iso-25010 https://www.scmagazine.com/podcast-episode/application-security-weekly-242 Qualys discloses syslog and qsort vulns in glibc, Apple's jailbroken iPhone for security researchers, moving away from OpenSSL, what an ancient vuln in image parsing can teach us today, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-272

We return to the practice of presentations, this time with a perspective from a conference organizer. And we have tons of questions! What makes a topic stand out? How can an old, boring topic be given new life? How do you prepare as a first-time presenter? What can conferences do to foster better presentations and new voices? Segment resources: https://bsidessf.org https://infosec.exchange/@worldwise001/111280163638514582 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lVIeh5f4Rg Vulns in Jenkins code and Cisco devices that make us think about secure designs, MiraclePtr pulls off a relatively quick miracle, code lasts while domains expire, an "Artificial Intelligence chip" from the 90s, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-271

Where apps provide something of value, bots are sure to follow. Modern threat models need to include scenarios for bad bots that not only target user credentials, but that will also hoard inventory and increase fraud. Sandy shares her recent research as we talk about bots, API security, and what developers can do to deal with these. Segment resources https://www.forrester.com/blogs/avoid-a-bot-waterloo/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/are-your-bot-management-tools-up-to-date-to-handle-the-holiday-season/ In the news, vulns throw a wrench in a wrench, more vulns drench Atlassian, vulns send GitLab back to the design bench, voting for the top web hacking techniques of 2023, and more! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-270

It's time to start thinking about CFPs and presentations for 2024! Eve shares advice on delivering technical topics so that an audience can understand the points you want to make. Then we show how developing these presentation skills for conferences helps with presentations within orgs and why these are useful skills to build for your career. Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-269

We kick off the new year with a discussion of what we're looking forward to and what we're not looking forward to. Then we pick our favorite responses to "appsec in three words" and set our sights on a new theme for 2024. In the news, 23andMe shifts blame to users for poor password practices, abusing Google's OAuth2 through a MultiLogin endpoint, Rustls is memory safe and fast, AI enters OSINT, and more! Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-268

HTTP RFCs have evolved: A Cloudflare view of HTTP usage trends, Career Advice and Professional Development, Active Exploitation of Confluence CVE-2022-26134 Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/secweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/vault-asw-7

We will provide a short introduction to OWASP SAMM, which is a flagship OWASP project allowing organizations to bootstrap and iteratively improve their secure software practice in a measurable way. Seba will explain the SAMM model, consisting of 15 security practices. Every security practice contains a set of activities, structured into 3 maturity levels. The activities on a lower maturity level are typically easier to execute and require less formalization than the ones on a higher maturity level. A the end we will cover how you can engage with the SAMM community and provide an overview of what happened at our latest SAMM User Day which happened on May 27th. Segment Resources: https://owaspsamm.org/ https://github.com/OWASPsamm https://app.slack.com/client/T04T40NHX/C0VF1EJGH -https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEZDbvQrj5APg5cEET49A_g https://twitter.com/OwaspSAMM https://www.linkedin.com/company/18910344/admin/ Visit https://securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitte