Animal Training Academy

3:00 - Trish shares where she began her positive reinforcement animal training journey. 7:00 - Trish explains how she started working in a shelter environment, how it led to working with the San Francisco’s SPCA and developed into the opportunity to work towards achieving a Master’s Degree in Animal Behaviour. 11:00 - Trish and Ryan discuss the opportunity Trish created to speak with Dr Sophia Yin and the early training Trish dog with her Dalmatian. 12:30 - Ryan asks more about Trish’s experience when she wanted to adopt her first dog from a shelter. 13:00 - Trish explains her ‘No 1’ take home lesson that she shares with all her new clients 16:15 - Trish and Ryan discuss Stanley Milgram’s’ study on the “Obedience to Authority” and the effects this can have on our behaviour. 19:30 - Ryan asks Trish about her experience with her more challenging foster dogs that she & how it helped her understand some of the hard decisions she has to make 24:40 - Ryan asks Trish what mindset and experiences would be of val

1:20 - Ryan introduces Sonya Bevan 4:00 - Sonya takes Ryan and the listeners back to where she first learned about positive reinforcement training and the journey from a career in being a physio to a behaviour consultant and dog trainer. 19:10 - Ryan asks how Sonya’s background in physio has helped her in her new profession. 20:20 - Sonya explains the assessment process she uses in her dog training and behaviour consultants. 24:15 - Ryan is curious if Sonya has a process for data collection and asks her for thoughts on helping people review their own processes for improving data collection. 28:10 - Ryan asks Sonya about her free video series. 29:20 - Sonya describes what she has learnt through the period of building the video library with her dog Zuri and how being courageous and sharing her mistakes has helped others train too. 32:00 - Ryan empathises that we often want to share our enthusiasm of positive training with others and asks Sonya how her thoughts have changed with sharing information and her enth

3:10 - Shelly takes us back to where her journey begin with positive reinforcement animal training. 19:30 - Ryan asks Shelly to share her work with children at Epic Pals - pairing children with dogs preparing to be adopted. 23:20 - Ryan and Shelly discuss the use of PORTL and resources used in the Epic Pals program and how it impacts the children 25:00 - Ryan asks where you can find out more about Shelly’s work at ‘Drop your jaws dog training’ and ‘Epic’ 26:00 - Ryan introduces the new program that Shelly will be hosting for the ATA community. 27:45 - Shelly shares what makes it an exciting program for her to host and introduces the first members that she will be interviewing. 31:05 - Ryan reveals the expected launch date of the new podcasts! 31:50 - Ryan moves the conversation forward to look closer at Shelley’s experience with animal introductions. 33:50 - Shelly explains how she found her first foster dog and how her resources and knowledge and the ATA community has supported her through the experiences 3

3:45 - Ryan asks about Caitlin’s PhD in Evolutionary Biology and Caitlin shares her stories and journey of how positive reinforcement training began for her. 13:35 - Ryan asks how the diverse areas of her knowledge influence and blend into Caitlin’s current work. 17:25 - Caitlin explains with an example how she asks about behaviours using a diagnostic approach when using an online platform. 18:35 - Ryan expands the discussion point in relation to online social platform (Facebook) communities and groups and how to approach conversations when emotions are involved. 20:20 - Caitlin highlights the importance of highlighting the facts but also acknowledging emotions with human connection and empathy, before moving to the questions to assist with training, behaviour and solutions. 23:00 - Caitlin’s simple recipe to help others with behavioural enquiries on social media 25:00 - Caitlin notes the benefit of honest recognition of doing things well, noting courage, bravery and giving compliments to your audience and y

1:20 - Ryan introduces Chris Shank 4:50 - Chris takes us back to the start of her training journey 12:00 - Chris explains that her new education and skills were difficult to transfer to her own pets 13:25 - Ryan asks about what valuable learning opportunities occurred from Chris’s time working with dolphins in the US and in Germany. 16:45 - Chris is honest and brave about sharing her experience regarding her introduction to breeding birds and the impact to her life. 20:45 - Ryan asks about the switch in Chris’s life regarding training techniques with birds 23:20 - Chris shares her face book and email details. 24:00 - Ryan asks about the activities and events at Cockatoo Downs. 28:25 - Ryan asks Chris to discuss free-flying parrots. 40:45 - Chris expands how she discusses with people about free-flying their pet parrots as it is often controversial. 45:10 - Ryan asks if having a frank conversation about consequences about free- flying their parrots with clients help. Chris describes an example of how it can go

3:10 - Sean shares how he started on his training journey and how constructional affection was ‘born’ 15:50 - Ryan asks: Do some trainers have a reliance on food? Or are not looking for other methods or reinforcers? 20:20 - Sean introduces how he used CAT and CA with his own dog. 21:20 - Sean describes the procedure of Constructional Affection and outlines the two main steps required: Step 1: The interaction guidelines & Step 2: The affection required 28:07 - Sean defines the term ‘complex fading procedures’ 29:15 - Ryan asks how Sean applies the process to the dogs in the shelter and if there are some dogs are more or less suitable for this particular process. 32:30 - Sean shares the story of ‘Big Mike’ 39:10 - Sean describes that the schedule we are using is not actually a schedule of reinforcement but that the application of affection is actually a conjugate reinforcement procedure or technique. 43:20 - Ryan shares his experience with trying to apply it to his own situation at home with Fibi and Summe

4:00 - How does the current global situation with the pandemic & subsequent change in our routines influence our animals and their behaviors. 4:20 - Malena defines and unpacks the term ‘Separation Anxiety’ 6:44 - Ryan describes his own experience of a panic attack 7:30 - Ryan asks how do we build empathy in dog owners towards the effect of a panic attack or separation anxiety 10:45 - Malena’s shares the importance of helping clients to understand ‘The Why’ of the treatment of separation anxiety. 14:25 - Ryan asks: How important is it to get honesty and truth from your clients? 16:30 - Ryan asks to know what has been the most exciting change in Malena’s thinking, methods and research since the last podcast in 2018? 17:00 - Malena discussed her new book regarding the research since 1970’s 21:35 - Malena explains that she feels that there are some specific effective treatment protocols in place now that lead to success. 24:50 - Malena shares her personal findings and thoughts on which dogs tend to show more

* 4:45 - Ryan asks Afiya to expand on her academic journey and how she chose to study a Masters and Phd on the topic of growth mindset * 9:16 - Afiya explains how struggle in her personal studies impacted her mindset. * 9:50 -  The game changer for Afiya…How she became receptive and open to seeing failure as an opportunity to grow and learn. * 12:45 - Afiya explains how gratitude presented an opportunity in Mindsetworks * 17:35 - Afiya discusses how preparation of mindset opens possibilities for opportunities. * 20:30 - Why do we pass up on certain opportunities?  What level of awareness and consciousness is present when opportunities arise. * 22:20 - Ryan asks do people with growth mindset feel uncomfortable at times? And frames his thought process that led to the question * 28:25 - How challenging emotions can impact our decisions for ourselves and others. * 30:32 - Ryan asks what does Afiya’s role at Mindsetworks look like at the moment (prior to and during the pandemic) * 35:15 - How the growth

* 4:30 - The Growth Mindset defined, why it is important and how it impacts and influences both behaviours and outcomes in our lives * 8:00 - Ryan and Afiya raise how the context, & individual learning history may support and impact the development of our mindset * 9:10 - Afiya shares ideas on where our mindset comes from * 11:45 - How success impacts our mindset * 15:00 - How praise can influence our mindset * 18:00 - How communicating and rewarding a process rather than the product can impact mindset and lead to growth over time * 20:19 - Ryan asks about ‘Imposter Syndrome’ in relation to the growth mindset * 21:30 - Afiya discusses how our level of self-awareness can be beneficial for developing a growth mindset * 22:15 - Afiya describes some benefits of being open about mistakes and imperfection * 23:48 - Afiya shares a personal example of how your mindset can influence others around you and how struggle and challenge is an important part of the learning process * 25:54 - Neuro-science &

* 4:06 - Steve talks about when he first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time. * 8:45 – Steve shares about learning to give the animal a voice by being a student of body language and his move to becoming “the partner of the bird”. * 12:43 – Ryan asks Steve to share with the listeners how they might become better observers of behavior. * 16:15 – Steve talks about his process in building high trust accounts with people to give them feedback in order to help them improve their training. * 29:38 – Ryan asks Steve to talk about something he heard him say years ago “I don’t aim to be the smartest person in the room.” * 34:47 - Steve talks about how meeting Dr. Susan Friedman has impacted his life. * 40:13 – Steve talks about his work consulting at zoos, his work travelling to observe natural behavior, and his new work moving into the world of virtual consulting. * 44:04 – New learning opportunities through NEI TEC are discussed and can be found by visiting htt

* 3:34 – Lili shares about when she first learned about positive reinforcement animal training, including a story about her dog Boogie. * 10:39 – Lili talks about Boogie and some things she has learned from him. * 12:14 – Illustrating dog body language has become a bit of an obsession for Lili. * 18:46 – Ryan asks Lili to share about reaching out to Sophia Yin to collaborate. * 27:21 – Lili uses art to make language about positive reinforcement training accessible to the public. * 33:22- The importance of cuteness and simplicity as key components of Lili’s artwork is discussed. * 36:40 – Ryan asks Lili to talk about her process in developing her animal body language illustrations. * 41:38 – Lili talks about working with Sarah Owings to develop the “How to Fill Your Dog’s Emotional Cup” infographic. * 47:33 – Ryan asks Lili what she means when she says that “she hasn’t even got started yet”. * 50:24 – Lili talks about what she would like to see in the next 5-10 years in the animal training community.

* 3:44 – Greg talks about getting started in the field of Behavior Analysis. * 9:13 – Greg shares about some pivotal moments in his career. * 14:17 – About Greg's company - FTF Behavior - and the work that they do. * 22:15 – Greg tells people they can visit www.practicalfunctionalassessment.com and go to the “Implementation Assistance” tab to find information about how to improve sleep. * 23:54 – Ryan asks Greg to share important considerations he makes when teaching clients about Behavior Analysis. * 28:25 - Greg explains the term televisibility. * 37:50 – Greg talks a little about schedules of reinforcement and choice. * 42:34 – Five big ideas Greg would like to share with animal trainers. * 42:37 – The big idea that ... “All our procedures are derived from our priorities.” * 48:53 – Greg talks about his priorities of safety, televisibility and rapport. * 50:13 – Greg talks about holism. * 1:00 – “Shaping from joy and shaping from freedom.” * 1:09 – The use of intermittent and unpredictable rei

* 5:22 – Ken discusses some of the changes that he and KPA have had to make as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic [including changes to the Karen Pryor Professional dog training certification]. * 16:57 – Ryan asks Ken to share what message he can give to trainers who are currently struggling. * 31:14 – Ryan asks Ken if he can share some thoughts on how trainers may best serve others during this time. * 39:30 – Ken shares about a time he felt vulnerable but still had courage to move forward. * 50:57 – Ken's offerings for others about how to push through during vulnerable times. * 53:35 – Ryan asks Ken to share his thoughts on the following question from ATA member Bex Tasker: “Do you significantly adjust your approach based on the species you are work with, and if so, what are some of the main considerations you think are important for trainers to take into account?”

* 3:37 – Vidhya talks about when she first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time. * 11:04 – Ryan asks Vidhya to talk about how she processes it when she sees others using aversives in animal training. * 14:40 – Vidhya talks about the need for more widely available education about what can be done with positive reinforcement. * 20:43 – Vidhya talks about the questions she asks herself related to her training. * 35:07 – Ryan asks Vidhya what skills are required in concept training. * 39:40 – Vidhya talks about how to get started in concept training. * 47:49 – Vidhya tells the story of when she decided she wanted to teach concepts. * 1:01 – Vidhya talks about what she would like to see happen in the next 5-10 years in the animal training world.

* 3:38 – Marjie talks about how she became a dog trainer and shares some stories from that time. * 20:13 – Marjie discusses how her approach to learning has helped her as the Executive Director of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC). * 24:50 – Ryan asks Marjie to talk a bit about what she means by some people viewing the use or non/use of certain tools in training as a religion. * 30:11 – Marjie talks about the importance of accountability and collaboration in the field. * 33:11 – The need for regulation in the industry is discussed. * 35:36 - Marjie and Ryan talk about the potential benefits or harm of the use of the word “tribe”. * 38:38 – Ryan asks Marjie if she thinks that people have a desire to belong to something and how we can satisfy that desire to people, while being inclusive. * 51:12 – Marjie shares five important lessons she has learned that have helped her achieve success with the IAABC. * 51:38 – 1.) “Never select ‘reply all’ by mistake.” * 51:47 –  2.

1:30 – Ryan introduces Nicolette. 3:45 – Nicolette talks about her positive reinforcement journey and some of the first animals she trained. 6:13 – Nicolette shares some memories from her time in the Exotic Training and Animal Management Program at Moorpark College. 8:55 – A little about Nicolette’s time working with the Navy and how and why she ultimately decided to follow her curiosity to graduate school. 14:40 – Ryan asks Nicolette how she is able to turn her curiosity into action. 33:40 – Nicolette talks about her working using Community Based Social Marketing (CBSM) model to improve environmental programs. 41:22 – Similarities between CBSM and ABA are discussed. 1:02: Nicolette talks about what she wants to see happen in the behavior science world in the next 5-10 years. 1:06 – To find out more about what Nicolette is currently doing, visit www.action3630.com .  To find out more about CBSM visit www.cbsm.com . People can email Nicolette directly at canzoneri@actionresearch-inc.com 1:07 – Ryan thanks Nico

1:27 – Ryan introduces Bryan. 3:35 – Bryan talks about Aubrey Daniels International. 7:07 – Bryan’s journey to behavioral analysis and work with organizations and businesses is discussed. 14:36 – Ryan asks Bryan if he always knew he wanted to work in Organizational Behavioral Management. 17:37 – Bryan talks about what he thinks his wife might say it is like to be married to someone who works in the field of behavioral science. 20:00 – “A day in the life of Bryan.” 24:09 – Bryan explains why they always teach organizational leaders about the science. 28:13 – Ryan shares a favorite story about teaching someone about the science of behavior. 31:32 - Find out more about Bryan and his work at Aubrey Daniels International at https://www.aubreydaniels.com/ or find him on LinkedIn. 34:28 – Bryan talks about what animal trainers are already doing really well that others could learn from beginning with embracing “the rat is always right” thinking. 40:25 – Bryan notes that animal trainers already do extremely well relyi

* 3:56 – Leslie talks about where she first learned about positive reinforcement training and shares some stories from that time. * 7:40 – Ryan asks Leslie what she brought with her from her time as a swimmer that has helped her in dog training. * 9:43 – Leslie talks about her introduction to behaviorism through reading Dr. Nicholas Dodman’s book. * 10:52 – Leslie talks about her dog Tundra and some of the things she learned from Tundra’s challenges with other dogs. * 14:30 – Leslie talks about how she got started in the world of sports medicine. * 16:13 – Ryan asks what a general job description for a sports medicine specialist is. * 24:21 – Leslie talks about how one might become a sports medicine veterinarian. * 28:53 – Find out more about Leslie’s work at the Sound Veterinary Rehab Clinic at www.soundvetrehab.com and find out more about the online classes Leslie teaches at www.thetotalcanine.net and on Facebook under The Total Canine. * 32:19 – Leslie talks about the importance of an exercise plan for bot

* 3:05 - Colleen and Ryan talk about burn out and the high rates of it out among pet care professionals. * 6:40 – Ryan asks Colleen about compassion fatigue. * 8:40 – Ryan asks Colleen to share her story - beginning with where she learned about positive reinforcement training. * 27:35 – Colleen talks about when she began making the shift from training to diving into positive psychology. * 30:08 – Colleen talks about her current work helping pet professionals to develop stronger resilience, learn to manage their stress, and find more joy. * 31:30 – Find out more about what Colleen is doing including her work with “Unleashed Resilience” at www.colleenpelar.com  * 32:00 – Colleen offers a working definition of resilience. * 34:50 – Colleen explains what “comparingitis” is, why we need to be aware of it, and what we can do about it. * 43:00 – Ryan and Colleen talk about the importance of the use of language in framing things. * 50:10 – Colleen talks about the importance of developing quality questions. * 53:22 –